idea_hamster
Sep 6, 08:16 AM
Hmmm... positive, but looking for a MacBook bump...
touchtone561
Mar 18, 02:11 PM
Japan perhaps.
Maybe it is a reflection of a parts shortage to be?
I still love my Classic.
Maybe it is a reflection of a parts shortage to be?
I still love my Classic.
Nipsy
Oct 13, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Source
Good replies, Nipsy. Although you completely misunderstood some of my points addressed some points that i wasn't even talking about and also made some points that i completely disagree with.
I might make a proper reply addressing these tomorrow, if:
A. I have the time.
B. I can be bothered.
Oh and i'm well over 18, have a very high IQ and a masters degree. :) That doesn't make me any more likely to be right or wrong than you, i'm just saying, seeing as you made some delightful comments about 13 and under 18 year olds in your aforementioned post.
If you guys don't mind Apple being behind in hardware, then, quite honestly, stop whining about it.
So many Mac users spend hours a day, talking about Apple and what they're doing wrong, but never take any action. If those who care about Apple being the slowest computers on the market are not going to do something about it, then they should shut up about it.
If you're going to whine about it constantly and then get upset with someone who says it's not good enough, then you're just a stupid hypocrit. I realize that you're happy with the productivity your Mac(s) has brought you, and are incredibly loyal to Apple, as well you should be, but if you're going to complain about it, then at least make some attempt to do something about it. or shut up about it.
Just a quickie:
I'm not whining about anything. I think of Macs as entry level workstations (not as desktops), and as such, I find them cheap, reliable, and speedy.
I'd like more speed (as I do tax my machine), but I'm not known to whine about anything. If you'll notice, my post is very point/counterpoint, and primarily designed to dispel some of the myths proffered from either side of the fence. If you read it carefully, I think you'll see that I'm neither a hypocrite, nor stupid. My spelling and grammar are strong. My arguments and points are logical, and put forth based on data, published and empirical.
Note I was quick to agree that Macs are not the fastest machines...
Secondly, Macs are not the slowest machines on the market. For processing only arguments, the Mac line sits squarely between the top and bottom end Windows machines. For reliability (uptime, TCO), the Mac sits between more mature UNIX distros, and Windows.
As for age, there are a lot of people here in the 12-20 demographic, who agrue with zeal, but without fact. Oddly, it is this demographic which are most likely to buy neon case lights, watercoolers, billet milled aircraft aluminum cases, etc.
No need to take the vertical demographics as an insult!
Furthermore, what action do you propose we comsumers take to speed Apple development?
I would wager that no active posters have high level chip design on their resumes. I would further speculate that few really understand the in-and-outs of a complex gate setup, so I doubt we're going to design it for them.
Should we boycott Apple products? This drains R&D capital from Apple, and forces people to use Windows, certainly not an elegant soultion.
I am open to any suggestion you have as to how I can speed the delivery of a G5 or Power4 Lite.
Lastly, I'm a happy Apple customer, but my loyalty is available. If you can create a better matrix of performance/stability/standards based computing/availabilty of apps/cost/TCO/OS elegance I'm a customer.
Good replies, Nipsy. Although you completely misunderstood some of my points addressed some points that i wasn't even talking about and also made some points that i completely disagree with.
I might make a proper reply addressing these tomorrow, if:
A. I have the time.
B. I can be bothered.
Oh and i'm well over 18, have a very high IQ and a masters degree. :) That doesn't make me any more likely to be right or wrong than you, i'm just saying, seeing as you made some delightful comments about 13 and under 18 year olds in your aforementioned post.
If you guys don't mind Apple being behind in hardware, then, quite honestly, stop whining about it.
So many Mac users spend hours a day, talking about Apple and what they're doing wrong, but never take any action. If those who care about Apple being the slowest computers on the market are not going to do something about it, then they should shut up about it.
If you're going to whine about it constantly and then get upset with someone who says it's not good enough, then you're just a stupid hypocrit. I realize that you're happy with the productivity your Mac(s) has brought you, and are incredibly loyal to Apple, as well you should be, but if you're going to complain about it, then at least make some attempt to do something about it. or shut up about it.
Just a quickie:
I'm not whining about anything. I think of Macs as entry level workstations (not as desktops), and as such, I find them cheap, reliable, and speedy.
I'd like more speed (as I do tax my machine), but I'm not known to whine about anything. If you'll notice, my post is very point/counterpoint, and primarily designed to dispel some of the myths proffered from either side of the fence. If you read it carefully, I think you'll see that I'm neither a hypocrite, nor stupid. My spelling and grammar are strong. My arguments and points are logical, and put forth based on data, published and empirical.
Note I was quick to agree that Macs are not the fastest machines...
Secondly, Macs are not the slowest machines on the market. For processing only arguments, the Mac line sits squarely between the top and bottom end Windows machines. For reliability (uptime, TCO), the Mac sits between more mature UNIX distros, and Windows.
As for age, there are a lot of people here in the 12-20 demographic, who agrue with zeal, but without fact. Oddly, it is this demographic which are most likely to buy neon case lights, watercoolers, billet milled aircraft aluminum cases, etc.
No need to take the vertical demographics as an insult!
Furthermore, what action do you propose we comsumers take to speed Apple development?
I would wager that no active posters have high level chip design on their resumes. I would further speculate that few really understand the in-and-outs of a complex gate setup, so I doubt we're going to design it for them.
Should we boycott Apple products? This drains R&D capital from Apple, and forces people to use Windows, certainly not an elegant soultion.
I am open to any suggestion you have as to how I can speed the delivery of a G5 or Power4 Lite.
Lastly, I'm a happy Apple customer, but my loyalty is available. If you can create a better matrix of performance/stability/standards based computing/availabilty of apps/cost/TCO/OS elegance I'm a customer.
MarcelV
Sep 4, 07:29 AM
If it's just an upgrade for the 5G iPod, I m gonna be disappointed......at myself. I was holding off to replace my aging 3G iPod, and was gonna wait till 6G (full screen). But if it's just about a larger harddrive, i really could have bought the current one loooong time ago.
Fab_Fab
Aug 3, 06:40 PM
my thoughts about the Banner: There are no new products on this banner (ok, the DVD) only products wich we already know.
Power Mac/ Mac Pro
iMac
Macbook /(Pro)
iPod Nano
thats all i can see. so you will see, that there is no "normal" iPod on the picture. Why the hell ist that? Are they going to release a new one?
I realy don't belive in this, but it seems strange to me, that theree are all hardware products on the banner with only the iPod missing......
Power Mac/ Mac Pro
iMac
Macbook /(Pro)
iPod Nano
thats all i can see. so you will see, that there is no "normal" iPod on the picture. Why the hell ist that? Are they going to release a new one?
I realy don't belive in this, but it seems strange to me, that theree are all hardware products on the banner with only the iPod missing......
Thunderhawks
Mar 28, 03:22 PM
Wonder when Toys R Us will get their shipment. :rolleyes:
They did. Limited edition:
http://www.google.com/search?q=etch-a-sketch&hl=en&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbs=shop:1&tbo=u&ei=RO2QTZfuBuWa0QHhqrzPDg&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=image&resnum=3&sqi=2&ved=0CFEQzAMwAg
They did. Limited edition:
http://www.google.com/search?q=etch-a-sketch&hl=en&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbs=shop:1&tbo=u&ei=RO2QTZfuBuWa0QHhqrzPDg&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=image&resnum=3&sqi=2&ved=0CFEQzAMwAg
daneoni
Aug 24, 07:57 PM
Tried again now and the battery is recognised as valid for the program BUT i'm not sure i want to send this thing in...it works fine. Do i have to?
mrsir2009
Mar 21, 01:25 PM
Ah well, Apple'll probably make back up the cost of that iPad through the apps that guy will buy in the app store on his iPad and on his Mac.
PowerGamerX
Oct 22, 08:11 PM
I've always loved the look of those iSight cameras, do they work well? (If that's whats on top of your monitor, I think it is anyway)
Yeah, thats what it is, I have one too:
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2701/img2990lf.jpg
They work well, but can be grainy by todays standards. They don't do well in low light.
Yeah, thats what it is, I have one too:
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2701/img2990lf.jpg
They work well, but can be grainy by todays standards. They don't do well in low light.
TheBMill
Apr 14, 12:43 AM
Why isn�t anyone talking about how ugly this interface looks? White on Dark backgrounds = not fun on the eyes. Please tell me this isn�t how it will look. The background rendering and all that stuff is great, but I HOPE this interface is customizable and has the ability to look a little like the final cut of yesteryear.
Simm0nS777
Mar 25, 05:05 PM
Ouch.
I get 36 hours on my Droid X without any issues...
If youre getting 36 hours youre barely using it for anything more than texting/calls/web browsing etc.
Youre definitely not getting 36 hours without charging playing games/streaming music etc. on top of texting/calls/web browsing. the iPhone too gets 36 hours if you use it like you do.
I get 36 hours on my Droid X without any issues...
If youre getting 36 hours youre barely using it for anything more than texting/calls/web browsing etc.
Youre definitely not getting 36 hours without charging playing games/streaming music etc. on top of texting/calls/web browsing. the iPhone too gets 36 hours if you use it like you do.
vniow
Oct 11, 12:29 AM
Okay, by now you should realize that things between the PC world and the Mac world aren't so black and white now.
XP & 2k are much more crash proof than 9x, have become more user-friendly and have become a better value than the Mac in some ways.
The major issue right now betwen PCs and Macs isn't any of those however, it's raw speed.
With Intel approaching 3Ghz by November, the fastest Mac at 1.25Ghz (duals or not) is just not loking very speedy by comparison.
Granted, they're not THAT slow, but they're far from where they could be.
There was a time when the Mhz myth was valid, then CPUs started to hit Ghz, then twice that, now at 3Ghz.
If I'm shopping for a speedy computer right now, what looks fastest, a dual 1.25Ghz G4 or a single 3Ghz PIV?
Even Photoshop, long favored on the Mac platform is going to render faster on a top of the line PC.
Now, don't get me wrong, there are a lot of reasons to choose a Mac over a PC at the moment, but speed is not one of them.
My question to you is, whose fault is it that we have this problem?
Is it Apple's for not pushing Moto to make faster chips?
Is it Moto for not giving any intrest in making faster chips?
Is it Intel, for making consumers think that Mhz is a valid measure for performanance?
Could Apple have threatened Moto with moving over to IBM chips much earler to get them to crank out some killer chips, or does Moto not care too much about selling chips to Apple because they make more money in the embedded chip market?
Could Intel have resorted to a better marketing move than cranking up the Mhz every chance it got?
You decide.
Sticking the blame on someone and complaining about what should have been done isn't going to do much now, but in the future we can hopefully use this knowledge to make sure that this doesn't happen again.
XP & 2k are much more crash proof than 9x, have become more user-friendly and have become a better value than the Mac in some ways.
The major issue right now betwen PCs and Macs isn't any of those however, it's raw speed.
With Intel approaching 3Ghz by November, the fastest Mac at 1.25Ghz (duals or not) is just not loking very speedy by comparison.
Granted, they're not THAT slow, but they're far from where they could be.
There was a time when the Mhz myth was valid, then CPUs started to hit Ghz, then twice that, now at 3Ghz.
If I'm shopping for a speedy computer right now, what looks fastest, a dual 1.25Ghz G4 or a single 3Ghz PIV?
Even Photoshop, long favored on the Mac platform is going to render faster on a top of the line PC.
Now, don't get me wrong, there are a lot of reasons to choose a Mac over a PC at the moment, but speed is not one of them.
My question to you is, whose fault is it that we have this problem?
Is it Apple's for not pushing Moto to make faster chips?
Is it Moto for not giving any intrest in making faster chips?
Is it Intel, for making consumers think that Mhz is a valid measure for performanance?
Could Apple have threatened Moto with moving over to IBM chips much earler to get them to crank out some killer chips, or does Moto not care too much about selling chips to Apple because they make more money in the embedded chip market?
Could Intel have resorted to a better marketing move than cranking up the Mhz every chance it got?
You decide.
Sticking the blame on someone and complaining about what should have been done isn't going to do much now, but in the future we can hopefully use this knowledge to make sure that this doesn't happen again.
MacRy
Aug 24, 12:47 PM
Link is up on Apple.com now:
https://support.apple.com/ibook_powerbook/batteryexchange/index.html
https://support.apple.com/ibook_powerbook/batteryexchange/index.html
MacFly123
Nov 4, 07:00 PM
it was a rhetorical question is response to MacFly123 and Knightlie's arguments that apple only follows open standards, which still allow them to create a media rich website using only open standards, that QuickTime is not.
on a lighter note: this is one of my fav flash sites (http://www.onemotion.com/flash/spider/). as you can tell, it's built only with HTML, javascript and CSS :p
I never claimed QuickTime was open. I simply stated that Apple can very ably develop a huge robust website WITHOUT FLASH!
No, QuickTime is not open, but Apple heavily invests in pushing open standards online as well as in a lot of their products!
on a lighter note: this is one of my fav flash sites (http://www.onemotion.com/flash/spider/). as you can tell, it's built only with HTML, javascript and CSS :p
I never claimed QuickTime was open. I simply stated that Apple can very ably develop a huge robust website WITHOUT FLASH!
No, QuickTime is not open, but Apple heavily invests in pushing open standards online as well as in a lot of their products!
ynocturnal
Apr 11, 10:58 AM
Hmmm, so I wonder what will the pricing be for those that don't jump to 5.5? Will 5 to 6 be priced the same as 5.5 to 6? What will be cheaper?
jmcrutch
Mar 21, 03:02 PM
^^ Not that the above arguments with said spouse can ever be won, but try pointing out to her that the amount of money she spends on hair appointments in just a few months would probably cover the cost of an iPad. If that doesn't work, then total up all the miscellaneous receipts that come from places like Walgreens, CVS, etc. If that doesn't work, remind her that you spent tons of money on her when you were dating ... money that she didn't have to spend on herself. When all that doesn't work, continue playing with your iPhone, as you sleep on the sofa.
bking1000
Mar 23, 12:25 PM
Great story! Hope the guy has a great time with his new iPad!
macUser2007
Nov 4, 02:25 PM
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Did you not notice in those numbers that FLASH doesn't work well on ALL MACS ON ALL BROWSERS ??? And FLASH is the reason for crashes on both POWERPC and INTEL Macs, even brand new Macs, from what I'm reading in other threads here on MacRumors.
....
Please people, think before you put your feet in your mouths.
Uhm, you are a bit confused.
First, Flash works just fine on most modern Macs. The only noticeable issue I see is, that on a Mac Mini C2D 2.0GHz and a Mac Book C2D 2.0GHz the fans go crazy when viewing Flash.
The problem is, that Flash in OS X requires much higher CPU exertion, than Flash in Windows. But also, in my experience, running Flash in Safari pushes the CPU significantly harder, than running Flash in Firefox, Camino or even Chrome (which is also a Webkit browser.) See this post (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=8739278&postcount=427) for exact numbers.
Which tells me, that Apple has done a poor job of getting Safari to work well with Flash.
In addition, even if Adobe is lazy, obtuse, incompetent, or whatever you want to believe they are, during all these years, Apple could have dedicated a competent employee, to guide Adobe and help make Flash work better on OS X. Any normal business would have made this effort, if they thought it was a problem worth investing in. But I bet, that Apple figures that most users don't even realize that there is a high CPU load, and of the once who do, at least some will be dumb enough to just blame Flash for everything.
BTW, Safari has major issues with Java stuff as well, and most Safari crashes I had in OS 10.5.x, were due to that, not Flash.
As to the iPhone, the issue is most likely Apple's reluctance to open the door to Flash apps competition to its own Applications Store. I am certain, that Apple will have Flash on the iPhone, once it starts losing sales to the new crop of Androids coming up.
Did you not notice in those numbers that FLASH doesn't work well on ALL MACS ON ALL BROWSERS ??? And FLASH is the reason for crashes on both POWERPC and INTEL Macs, even brand new Macs, from what I'm reading in other threads here on MacRumors.
....
Please people, think before you put your feet in your mouths.
Uhm, you are a bit confused.
First, Flash works just fine on most modern Macs. The only noticeable issue I see is, that on a Mac Mini C2D 2.0GHz and a Mac Book C2D 2.0GHz the fans go crazy when viewing Flash.
The problem is, that Flash in OS X requires much higher CPU exertion, than Flash in Windows. But also, in my experience, running Flash in Safari pushes the CPU significantly harder, than running Flash in Firefox, Camino or even Chrome (which is also a Webkit browser.) See this post (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=8739278&postcount=427) for exact numbers.
Which tells me, that Apple has done a poor job of getting Safari to work well with Flash.
In addition, even if Adobe is lazy, obtuse, incompetent, or whatever you want to believe they are, during all these years, Apple could have dedicated a competent employee, to guide Adobe and help make Flash work better on OS X. Any normal business would have made this effort, if they thought it was a problem worth investing in. But I bet, that Apple figures that most users don't even realize that there is a high CPU load, and of the once who do, at least some will be dumb enough to just blame Flash for everything.
BTW, Safari has major issues with Java stuff as well, and most Safari crashes I had in OS 10.5.x, were due to that, not Flash.
As to the iPhone, the issue is most likely Apple's reluctance to open the door to Flash apps competition to its own Applications Store. I am certain, that Apple will have Flash on the iPhone, once it starts losing sales to the new crop of Androids coming up.
mkrishnan
Aug 2, 05:46 PM
So the concept of this attack seems similar to Bluetooth exploits that target "discoverable" phones. And the solution for many people was to make their phones non-discoverable, since they were already paired to all the important devices anyway.
In the Airport preferences, there is the "By default, join: Preferred networks" option. In addition, when you click options, you can select to keep searching for preferred networks when one does not find a preferred network. But I'm not sure... is this enough? Or is the system vulnerable even when it is only looking for preferred networks? It would seem like one could spoof enough of the signal of a preferred network in some cases (e.g. when it's a company network with a known name as opposed to my hidden network at home, the name of which no one else really knows).
It seems like, in the long run, there needs to be something like a "non-discoverable" mode for 802.11 to solve this issue....
In the Airport preferences, there is the "By default, join: Preferred networks" option. In addition, when you click options, you can select to keep searching for preferred networks when one does not find a preferred network. But I'm not sure... is this enough? Or is the system vulnerable even when it is only looking for preferred networks? It would seem like one could spoof enough of the signal of a preferred network in some cases (e.g. when it's a company network with a known name as opposed to my hidden network at home, the name of which no one else really knows).
It seems like, in the long run, there needs to be something like a "non-discoverable" mode for 802.11 to solve this issue....
aardwolf
Mar 25, 12:37 PM
http://ios.e-lite.org/
thworple
Nov 8, 06:28 AM
or is there more expected from the update....like the true ipod video?
Can't see that happening - there would be a BIG fuss made over that, with Steve giving a keynote about it , and some "big at the moment" music act doing a live performance at the end.
Can't see that happening - there would be a BIG fuss made over that, with Steve giving a keynote about it , and some "big at the moment" music act doing a live performance at the end.
Analog Kid
Sep 4, 09:35 PM
Interesting... I've been assuming the video store has been holding up the video iPod, but that doesn't appear to be the case...
FrankPaolino
Mar 23, 05:22 PM
I have shared this with some friends, and re-blogged it with attribution at:
http://blog.maysoft.org/blog.nsf/d6plinks/FPAO-8F8TZM
I wonder how many other people will try this if they have "buyers remorse" and return an iPad?
Cool gesture on Apple's part.
http://blog.maysoft.org/blog.nsf/d6plinks/FPAO-8F8TZM
I wonder how many other people will try this if they have "buyers remorse" and return an iPad?
Cool gesture on Apple's part.
rata911
Mar 11, 03:20 PM
9to5 revoked their statement...
Update: We've received multiple tips that there would be Pro updates in the coming days. This latest one about the MacBook Pros may have been fake. Shame on us.
Edit: Sorry, Esquare was a nano-second earlier than me :P
Update: We've received multiple tips that there would be Pro updates in the coming days. This latest one about the MacBook Pros may have been fake. Shame on us.
Edit: Sorry, Esquare was a nano-second earlier than me :P
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